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Logistics is a multi-trillion-dollar industry that quietly powers the entire global economy — and it's shockingly manual.Ryan Petersen, founder & CEO of Flexport, joins the Lightcone to break ...
Ryan Petersen, CEO of Flexport, discusses how AI is transforming the $2B logistics company by automating 50% of operations and targeting 90-95% automation. Through LLM-powered tools, Flexport has reduced ocean freight costs by 2% while improving transit times by 20%, with plans to make shipping 8-10% cheaper globally. The company is training non-engineers in AI skills, deploying voice agents for warehouse coordination, and expanding to cover 95% of global container trade by 2028.
Flexport uses AI to optimize container shipping, achieving 2% cost savings while simultaneously improving transit times by 20%—a typically impossible trade-off. The company aims to reduce ocean freight costs by 8-10% over the next few years through AI automation, which represents 10% of total freight forwarding costs.
Flexport runs bi-annual hackathons where 90% of projects now use LLMs, compared to just a handful 18 months ago. These hackathons generate production-ready features that leadership wouldn't have conceived, forcing a balance between top-down direction and bottom-up innovation. The company schedules hackathons before roadmap planning to incorporate winning ideas into the budget.
Flexport created a 90-day AI boot camp giving non-engineers one day per week to learn cursor, Streamlit, and workflow automation. The program aims to make participants 10x more productive by enabling domain experts to automate their own repetitive work without waiting for engineering resources.
A hackathon project became a production feature allowing customers to query supply chain data in natural language instead of SQL or dashboards. This automation saves 25% of account management time previously spent generating reports for customers.
Machine learning models optimize which ship each container goes on, balancing cost and transit time. The system automatically rebooking 2,000 canceled containers per week (10x daily) by moving forward containers originally scheduled later, achieving the 20% transit time improvement.
LLM agents handle warehouse address verification and delivery appointments via email and voice calls. For any location not delivered to in 3 months, agents proactively confirm addresses and schedule appointments—work previously too expensive to do manually.
Flexport automated 20% of work at year start, will hit 50% by year-end, and initially targeted 80% for next year. They now believe 90-95% automation is achievable with current technology, with even higher potential as LLMs progress.
Discussion of AI's potential to increase GDP 7% annually (doubling in 10 years) and philosophical implications. Petersen argues companies exist to deliver goods/services efficiently, not employ people, and that human desire for 'more' will create new jobs as AI automates existing work—similar to historical technological transitions.
Petersen advises founders to focus on price per share and control, not ownership percentage. His key lesson: money wants to spend itself, leading to bloat. He recommends a 90-day hiring freeze immediately after raising large rounds to maintain problem-solving culture instead of defaulting to hiring.
Flexport's vision is to ship anything, anywhere, by any means, via code—making logistics a utility like electricity. Currently shipping to 147 countries with employees in 22, they plan to cover 95% of container trade with own employees by 2028 and be in every legal country by 2035.
AI Is Eating Logistics
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