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AGENDA: 03:46 SpaceX's $800 Billion Valuation: A Deep Dive 09:18 IPO Market Predictions for 2026 18:18 Netflix's Bold Move: Acquiring Warner Brothers 27:43 Tiger's New Fund Strategy 33:02 Databricks' ...
Deep dive into major tech deals and market dynamics with Jason Lemkin and Rory O'Driscoll. Key discussions include SpaceX's $800B valuation and whether it's justified at 40x revenue, predictions for 2026 IPOs (Anthropic, Databricks, SpaceX), Netflix's $82.7B acquisition of Warner Brothers showing how digital platforms are consuming traditional media, and Harvey's $160M raise at $8B valuation with debate over sustainability of AI app layer valuations. Critical analysis of whether LLMs will commoditize or if application layer companies can maintain defensibility through implementation and customer relationships.
Analysis of SpaceX pursuing $800B valuation through secondary sale at 40x revenue for a company doing $15B growing 30%. Discussion covers whether this represents Elon magic premium versus fundamental value, comparison to typical SaaS multiples, and implications for the broader late-stage market pricing discipline.
Predictions for blockbuster 2026 IPO year with SpaceX ($800B), Anthropic ($400B), and Databricks ($200B) potentially returning $700B to VCs. Discussion of whether private market valuations will hold in public markets and historical patterns of down-round IPOs in 2025.
Netflix's $82.7B bid for Warner Brothers shows venture-backed companies consuming traditional industries. Netflix ($470B market cap) vs Paramount ($20B) demonstrates massive competitive advantage. Analysis covers regulatory hurdles, Hollywood creator concerns about monopsony power, and broader trend of digitization eating advertising, entertainment, retail.
Tiger raising $2.2B fund (down from peak) with only 9 deals in 2024 vs 100+ in 2021. 20% GP commit ($400M+) shows conviction. Discussion of adapting strategy to market conditions and taking responsibility for 2021 over-exuberance.
Harvey raises $160M at $8B (2% dilution) with $150M ARR growing 300% YoY, 98% GDR, 168% NDR. Debate over whether legal TAM can support valuation (no legal software company ever worth >$2B) and whether growth rates will sustain or decelerate rapidly.
Debate on whether improving foundation models will obsolete application layer companies. Discussion of deep reasoning moving from 15 minutes to seconds, model switching/commoditization, and whether GTM/implementation provides defensible moat.
Analysis of Benioff's 'LLMs are commodities' comment. Discussion of whether API-level commoditization means bad business (like hard drives) or consolidation to profitable oligopoly. Consumer memory creates stickiness; B2B switching remains easy.
Discussion of Andreessen portfolio using Chinese open source models (clarified: 20% use open source, 80% of that is Chinese). Debate over national security concerns, cost benefits, and whether inference costs negate model savings.
Airwallex raises $330M at $8B doing $1B ARR - same revenue as Ramp but 1/4 the valuation. Debate sparked by Keith Rabois raising China data concerns. Discussion of what constitutes 'Asia discount' vs legitimate regulatory risk for companies with Chinese engineering presence.
Discussion of prediction markets, insider trading concerns, and whether VCs should participate. Debate over information advantages, market manipulation risks, and comparison to public market insider trading rules.
20VC OGs: SpaceX Valued at $800BN & Harvey Raises $160M at an $8BN Price | Airwallex Raises $330M and The Battle with Keith Rabois | Netflix Acquires Warner Brothers | IPO Market Predictions for 2026: Anthropic, Stripe, Databricks and SpaceX
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