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Help us keep the conversations going in 2026. Donate to Conversations with Tyler today. Alison Gopnik is both a psychologist and philosopher at Berkeley, studying how children construct theories of t...
Developmental psychologist Alison Gopnik discusses how children learn like scientists through Bayesian inference and experimentation, challenging simple nature vs. nurture frameworks. She argues that babies are more conscious than adults due to their exploratory focus, critiques twin studies and IQ testing as oversimplified, and positions AI as a cultural technology rather than genuine intelligence. The conversation covers practical implications for education, the role of caregiving in enabling variability, and why apprenticeship models work better than traditional schooling for developing real-world skills.
Gopnik explains her core thesis that children learn like scientists by constructing theories from limited data using Bayesian inference. She argues children are often better Bayesians than adult scientists because they have flatter priors and are more willing to explore unexpected outcomes, while scientists become stubborn and predictable in their theory revisions.
Gopnik argues that babies are more conscious than adults in terms of awareness and sentience, experiencing the world more vividly because they take in more information simultaneously. Adult consciousness involves focused attention that actually reduces awareness of surroundings, while babies maintain broad, plastic attention to novelty.
Gopnik dismantles simple nature/nurture dichotomies, arguing the framework is scientifically unhelpful. She explains how Turkheimer's work shows genetic effects vary by environment (SES effects on twin correlations), and proposes that good caregiving increases variability rather than creating similarity, which twin studies miss entirely.
Gopnik advocates for play-based exploration for young children (under 7) and apprenticeship models for school-age kids, criticizing current schools for teaching students to be good at school rather than developing real skills. She uses the baseball analogy - imagine teaching it like we teach science, with theory before practice.
Gopnik argues generative AI should be understood as a cultural technology for accessing human knowledge (like libraries or print) rather than genuine intelligence. She's skeptical that reasoning models represent true thinking, noting they still hallucinate and lack the experimental, world-engaging capacities that even two-year-olds possess.
Gopnik challenges autism and ADHD as coherent categories, comparing them to 19th-century 'dropsy' - symptoms that don't track underlying unified conditions. She argues these represent normal human variation that becomes dysfunctional in specific cultural contexts, particularly industrial schooling that demands focused attention.
Gopnik's current research focuses on caregiving as a fundamental but understudied aspect of human life. She notes the paradox that people cite caregiving as most meaningful yet it's invisible in economics (GDP) and social science, and its structure - giving resources to accomplish others' goals - differs fundamentally from typical social relationships.
Alison Gopnik on Childhood Learning, AI as a Cultural Technology, and Rethinking Nature vs. Nurture
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